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Why the Most Profitable Clients Aren't Always the Biggest. Selling Smarter with Charlie Clark | Ep #862

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Ever wondered why landing a huge client isn’t always the jackpot it seems? In this episode, host Jason Swank sits down with Charlie Clark, founder of a thriving SEO agency that’s made waves in travel, leisure, and lifestyle sectors across Europe.

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I always used to think big retainer, big profit, but when you’re working with enterprise clients, they can squeeze your margins until there’s almost nothing left.

CharlieSmart Agency Masterclass with Jason Swenk · 5:34
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… What I realized, and speaking honestly, whether this was down to a lack of commercial experience myself, I always used to kind of think big retainer, big profit, but very easily. When you're working with these enterprise clients, you can very easily squeeze your margins.

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This episode explores why the most profitable agency clients aren’t always the largest, featuring SEO agency founder Charlie Clark. Host Jason Swank and Charlie discuss productizing agency services, optimizing client selection for profit, and the hidden pitfalls of chasing big enterprise retainers. Listeners gain practical advice on packaging services and creating predictable, scalable agency growth.

Jason Swank introduces the episode, promotes the Elevate agency event in Phoenix, and sets the stage for the conversation on agency profitability.

Charlie shares his path from working at an agency to founding his own SEO agency in Spain, and later transitioning to London.

Focusing on mid-sized, long-term clients with productized services often leads to higher profitability and agency stability than chasing large, demanding enterprise deals.

I always used to think big retainer, big profit, but when you’re working with enterprise clients, they can squeeze your margins until there’s almost nothing left.
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A lot of agencies are accidental—I worked in one for three months and thought, ‘I could do this myself.’ I couldn’t, which was quite interesting.
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From Barcelona to Profit: My Agency’s Real Growth Story

Ever wondered why so many agencies chase big-name clients—only to end up stretched thin and less profitable? I used to think bigger always meant better, too.

In this episode, I’m pulling back the curtain on my journey: from starting out in a coworking space in Barcelona for €500 a month, to landing five-figure clients, and then realizing the real money (and sanity!) was in finding the right fit, not the biggest retainers.

I share how growing a home improvement business to millions taught me that growth isn't about scale at any cost. The real breakthrough came when I shifted focus to sustainable, repeatable service packages and started pre-qualifying the right clients. That’s when profitability—and team morale—really took off.

If you run an agency, or are thinking about scaling, you’ll hear how we:

  • Built clear SOPs and templates for predictable results
  • Avoided “over-delivering” traps with demanding enterprise clients
  • Created a lean team that delivers more for every dollar

If you want an honest look at what actually works (and what doesn’t) in agency growth, this episode is for you.

Listen in for the full story and see how you can apply these lessons to your own business.

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Smart Agency Masterclass with Jason Swenk: Podcast for Digital Marketing Agencies, by Jason Swank

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